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April 11, 2010

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Nancy

It would not surprise me if Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict did not always receive accurate information about dissenting bishops as well as the full extent of the abuse crisis. I find it hard to believe that they would not have intervened if they knew what was going on. The good news is, I think we are going to see an "overturning of tables" as the dissenters in The Catholic Church become exposed and the Church becomes "purified".

EJHill

I am NOT Catholic, so take this for what it's worth:

Two points need to made. One, entry into the priesthood has steadily declined since the 1970's. Two, the level of abuse among priests mirrors that of the population at large. (Want to be depressed further? Try badbadteacher.com or Google USA Swimming Scandal)

Abusive priests are not only given 2nd chances, but many more beyond that because of the shortage. You can't do anything until with them until you have a replacement at hand.

And this is an instructive note for our future. As ObamaCare creates a doctor shortage, bad doctors will go unpunished because the system will demand they be given a 2nd chance. And a 3rd. And a 4th...

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Too many of this hypocrites. I really despise them. I hope proper legal action should be acted upon this and I hope the priest who committed the act will be punished so that he will serve as an example to other priests.

Jeff Hendrix

Yeah, hypocrites. Like the guy getting ready to take his family to Mass and his neighbor was working in the yard.

"We're headed to Church, George. Want to come?"

"Hell, no. Too many hypocrites."

"That's okay. We can always use one more."

dad29

Umnnhhh....Diogenes published an essay today which answers your question (at least partially).

Brief: the John Jay study was deliberately "averaged"--thus, the REALLY bad Bishops were 'less' bad, while the really GOOD Bishops were 'less' good.

Notice that FOUR Irish Bishops have resigned since November, when a government study which named names and specified numbers was published?

Big difference...

gb

As a mom & grandma, I need to say that your "problem" doesn't hold water bc even most parents & grandparents can't be bothered to confront their kids re: SIN. As in: "you're living in sin" or "not going to Mass is still a mortal sin" or "using birth control pills is against Church teaching" etc etc.

I.e., When was the last time you heard one of the parents who are worried about their kids' souls who began confronting them about their behavior before they flew the nest? Absolutely NO sense in blaming the clergy/bishops etc for not doing their job when we won't do ours.

Gary

Karen, what do you think of Peggy Noonan's latest?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304510004575186451300061536.html

Karen Hall

I gave up on Peggy Noonan when she started drinking the Obama Kool Aid. I agree with some of her points, but I just have no interest in what an "oh, abortion's not THAT bad" Catholic has to say on the pedophile issue, or any other Catholic issue.

Valentine

I support gb - most parents & grandparents can't be bothered to confront their kids

Jules

@gb/@Valentine: I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You're saying it's O.K. for Catholic clergy to rape and abuse children because parents aren't 'confronting their children about their behavior...' I don't think anyone's blaming the bishops/clergy for 'not doing their job.' They're being blamed for RAPING CHILDREN, and covering up for RAPISTS when, and I'm no lawyer, I'm assuming at least one of those is a CAPITAL CRIME.

tom

Yay for Gomez?

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  • "We've had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence."

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